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In Honor of Our Beloved Friend, Abdou OverLord, the High Tier Debater (It's Fact so deal with it) H

In Honor of Our Beloved Friend, Abdou OverLord, the High Tier Debater (It's Fact so deal with it)
He was many things;

>One of the best Debaters
>Most Badass Roasters
>A Beloved Friend
>Greatest of Superman Wankers God had to Offer

Abdou was more than just a Debater though.
He was a Teacher , a Leader, a Voice of a Generation of Debaters from across the Globe. Abdou was a Man who stuck to what he believed in and never strayed from it no matter what.
Abdou was a man who would never make a judgement on anything unless Hard Evidence and Facts were involved.

Most of all , Abdou is the only person in the Omniverse that has never wanked Superman, if it came down to him being actually Serious, aside from Trolling DragonBall Z Fans.


He left behind his Wife +MasashiHideaki​ and his only Son +Harun The “kill σя bє killєd” God Tier

But they will have to stay strong by themselves, and so will the rest of his Friends.

And now:

IN HONOR OF ABDOU OVERLORD, I SHALL NOW PROCEED TO DEBUNKING +SethTheProgrammer...​ VIDEO "God Goku VS God Superman" WITH THE MANY FLAWS IT CONTAINED
[Видео]
I'll start by
DEBUNKING "God Goku is Low Multiversal"
You sad this because of the Multipliers.

1.
Multipliers aren't consistent becasue as of now, going by them, Goku is stronger than Beerus, and that would defy Toriyama's Plot.

2.

If you use Multipliers to prove that Goku is Multiversal, that would mean Namek Saga Goku (who was Star Lvl) is Solar System Lvl

>Get the Joules required to bust a Star, and then Multiply them with Goku's PowerLvl that was above 9,000, and then Multiply them with the Kaioken Boosters + the SSJ1 Multiplier.
You'd get Joules way above Star Lvl, and would end up with Solar System Lvl, which is false because he isn't stronger than Cell.

So basically, Goku is Macroversal at best as of Currently, until he shows any better, excluding the Fan Made Calcs based on Power Lvls

And also, When Anti Monitor fought Darkseid and Metron said their Fight would destroy reality, that's not a Feat Comparable to the One with Beerus Vs Goku, because Metron meant the Entire Multiversal Reality (Which i'll be proving below), and for Goku and Beerus it was simply the Universe 7's Macroverse.

So you can't base it all on Multipliers, but unless you have proof that Equation exists.



Next:

NEW 52 CONTINUITY AND WRITERS/ARTISTS
"Denny Swan is from a Different Comic, written by a different person.""Completely different Writers, so i don't know why he would use this".................

That's true. But it's the same Continuity/The New 52, which is also written by many writers, working on the same Issues and Comics. So it's very much relevant.


"New 52 Superman is Supernova ++ at Minimum"
False. The way you used that Feat and scaling is very wrong. Supergirl has multiple Feats that put her above Supernova Lvl, and that goes for for New 52 Superman as well.

That Feat isn't the best New 52 Superman has ever done. So you really should have done more research about him.

Here:

NEW 52 SUPERMAN'S DURABILITY AND ATTACK POTENCY
(Small Galaxy while Weakened)

He has tanked multiple Black Holes and the Feat was Calced at at Least Small Galaxy Lvl
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142337/4138017-4132605-untitled1%5B1%5D.png
https://web.archive.org/web/20160216052913/http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=26429
That counts as a Strength Feat, because he collapsed them first before they fell on him.

(At least Universe Lvl+)

Superman tanked a Magical blast stated to be above Universe Lvl

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4180124-9574954659-LcfWv.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4180125-6687226675-zkg6D.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4180126-2279744503-ni55b.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4180127-9200844107-ruKly.jpg
"For no force in the Universe can withstand"
And what's interesting about the Universes in the DC Multiverse is that Each Universe contains Infinite Limbos and Realms within it
https://i.imgsafe.org/fd679e3596.jpg
https://i.imgsafe.org/fd40d6913e.jpg
https://plus.google.com/111306812971107145562/posts/fFY6wUjzTUy
The Art might look different, but it's the same ol' DC Universe, which doesn't get ret-conned itself, but the characters within it.

It's been stated multiple - Several Times

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vfru0szGpG8/V6HtdJbj-xI/AAAAAAAAW4g/iaVLFt1Zr-QykZZQaFMhwGTkEmeapSJCgCL0B/w530-h821-p-rw/infinite%2Buniverse.jpg
"The Universe is Infinite"
So we can come to claim that one Universe in the DC Omniverse is Multiverse Sized.

Wank?? Not really. I have given you the Links that prove so.

Now, you might say something like "That's an Outlier, and he hasn't shown anything else on that Lvl"
Yea. You're wrong.

1.

>He survived a beating From Mr. Vyndktvx,( Comes from Dimension 5).

https://p.dreamwidth.org/57f5c2eb73f5/-/www.abload.de/img/action16-4ebq43.jpg
http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/AC_17_04_05.jpg
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2013/02/ac1706.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/Y7XrEGzfaFe45RD-67lzo-tS6ihthBAd90NdCiBtsw9K1yMxdRZkGYBa6QqYNAROEwJVOz6u8PAbq-1CZ2yMAX2V*jtF-JOg/AC_17_07.jpg
https://575717b777ff8d928c6b-704c46a8034042e4fc898baf7b3e75d9.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/8327128_grant-morrisons-run-on-action-comics-reviewretrospective_t65db0385.jpg
http://www.mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/geek/2013/03/superman-action-comics-morrison-morales-540x410.jpg
He held his own even after being Severely weakened by the physical embodiment of Kryptonite.

First, he was weakened by the Embodiment of Red K, who is able to "twist his reality" and alters his perception.
Second, he was de-powered by Green K, which gave him Fatal Blood Poisoning.
And third, Blue K man stated that his power is two times as bad as the others, which would "kill his spirit."

And to add to that, he had a chain of Green K tied around him, while being dunked on by Mr. Vyndktvx, who rivals Mr. Mxyzptlk( A High Multiverse Lvl being).

2.

Superman caused Universe Lvl damage when he punched Darkseid during Justice League Origin. And it was stated multiple Times.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/Q8sArrcxrYb0_GXdUad2IPuLIzinMFTj5eoZzLFj4ouOfl916oiUXPA9tQjvNuUJZeMoMOyJkqiE=s0
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/i6bBlI6YvcE9dYohBzoTpyP8XGIEPEQOVDe3eRT-D7BMDk8wm-BJrUKP4-Csipqov9KGCiQaKvrk=s0
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/wbKy3mNn8rqaI4GQOMDNMEhcpFpFWAZyLVaYqGgkrkGaQXKJ1tn0dLSPjvTN4OVuA7UDdDzbfK3V=s0

God Superman was able to hurt The Anti Monitor and then tank his Anti Matter Cannon when he lost his God Form.
http://i.imgur.com/RnEobfw.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6YH_Ntl-aZ0/VyCEf8exj-I/AAAAAAAB9r8/q9ht-YT1NmY_TgUcFAuLc2kSSM23Vk7wACLcB/s1600/11_11.jpg
He was stated to have cracked open the Multiverse in his search for the crime Syndicate.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106170393299671432727/album/6258765246675861857/6258765244968277474?authkey=CJO-6KK4z8n-Pg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762108-lff5htv%5B1%5D.jpg
In your Video you said Darkseid was the one who cracked the Multiverse, but it was The Anti Monitor.You also said Darkseid was fighting GoS Superman, but they never even encountered, Darkseid was busy fighting AM and Superman was still on Apokolips
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4757422-doom1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4757424-doom2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4757428-doom3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111154974/4558454-4544602-divergencepr_1280.jpg

And when he cracked open the Multiverse, the Cracks appeared throughout the Entire Multiverse of Infinite Universes.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4709217-4553464-1%5B1%5D.jpg
He also said he didn't want to destroy the Multiverse, he said he just wanted to kill Darkseid. So the Crack was on a Multiversal Scale.

I say this because this Anti Monitor is the same one in Post Crisis who ate the DC Multiverse during Crisis on Infinite Earths

Justice League #40 canonizes all the Crisis's that have occurred throughout DC's history "He is the COIE AM"
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762115-jbhh59v%5B1%5D.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762117-mouh7ur%5B1%5D.jpg

So i just confirmed the Crack was Multiversal. not "Multi Universal"
He fought Darkseid, who has some pretty impressive Multivesal Feats.

Darkseid he tanked a Massive Multiversal blast with the power of all Alan Scott's counter part's from the Multiverse. However Allan stated that Attack wasn't enough to K.O Darkseid at all.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762015-4577903-4472222-1%252bearth2we_26_1%5B1%5D.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762016-4577906-tumblr_nm8f46ur9o1sr7281o1_1280%5B1%5D.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762017-4577916-tumblr_nm8f46ur9o1sr7281o2_1280%5B1%5D.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762028-4588071-earth%2B2%2B-%2Bworld%2527s%2Bend%2B%25282014-%2529%2B026-021%5B1%5D.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4762037-4588065-earth%2B2%2B-%2Bworld%2527s%2Bend%2B%25282014-%2529%2B026-022%5B1%5D.jpg

These scans prove Allan Scott was Multiversal, as you can see the power of the DC Universes projected with the Punch.

So this puts GoS Superman on a Multi- Universal Lvl by a great amount, more than Goku, obviously and i already explained the DC Universes

Also, the DC Multiverse is 200.00 Dimensions, way above Living Tribunal Lvl characters

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mgohP5NciHQ/V5kVi7nPwSI/AAAAAAAAQyk/6wu1jGEjGEgNlPbBg5cRrYJ30hjzyUTyg/w530-h815-p-rw/Yee.jpg
So it's damn well impressive Superman was able to tank a Blast with the power of that many Dimensions.

It's a Fact that Superman is stronger than Green Lantern.
And Full power Green Lantern was able to go against Parallax Sinestro, who was able to hurt Base Volthoom.

>Base Volthoom was casually Universal, as he even held the Universe in the palm of his hand and manipulated it's Reality.
He was also stronger than the Guardians of the Universe, who are basically Universe Lvl
So he was Multi- Universal in base with ease.

>Parallax Sinestro casually stomped him.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c7RJWGQ1NVs/VnJpdYsnGFI/AAAAAAAARsE/KqhxSSb2pDA/s1600-Ic42/RCO031.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xKQaeTthkys/VnJpdRak92I/AAAAAAAARsE/mz16zd6irh4/s1600-Ic42/RCO032.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wGs91Eo2sVc/VnJpdolqqfI/AAAAAAAARsE/JXSkZjlPasE/s1600-Ic42/RCO033.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oVx_vaLOKJI/VnJpd9sjvWI/AAAAAAAARsE/NLVifKr_X7o/s1600-Ic42/RCO034.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JNoKgL6JSfw/VnJpdxOEuoI/AAAAAAAARsE/i-yLbPDt_Xs/s1600-Ic42/RCO035.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sx3dpoq4tBc/VnJpeLCb_DI/AAAAAAAARsE/P46qQ5KHwsw/s1600-Ic42/RCO036.jpg
And here, Full Power Hal goes toe to toe with Parallax Sinestro.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uq6oYEYlOLg/VnJpe53gB_I/AAAAAAAARsE/pZrWJWvHDiA/s1600-Ic42/RCO040.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gQzZOzPw57w/VnJpe1uA_wI/AAAAAAAARsE/aYmGM1hzJKo/s1600-Ic42/RCO041.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zoUkHmdk7Cs/VnJpfpIdx3I/AAAAAAAARsE/vY1JIQcu3r0/s1600-Ic42/RCO042.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-72-vLd6GiWs/VnJpfhUEbkI/AAAAAAAARsE/LWyyU6gu3_k/s1600-Ic42/RCO043.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bs3mlKjw78I/VnJpfwruY3I/AAAAAAAARsE/UJIUoWLB2ZY/s1600-Ic42/RCO044.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cA8rXDNWu20/VnJpgL3xZuI/AAAAAAAARsE/a9g8-4XXUCU/s1600-Ic42/RCO045.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sRlLZ97ZzCg/VnJpgRiVDII/AAAAAAAARsE/lSlk_ZyFxQg/s1600-Ic42/RCO046.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pco0cJ3uzHI/VnJpgjGx4uI/AAAAAAAARsE/bVGHUIiuirM/s1600-Ic42/RCO047.jpg
Superman is stronger. And in case you want proof.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/WJfi4VEbZptrkUzqVY0gZE1QlsNJSK2Zzrc2f5Gf1mYUdXeWKH0vtZTqVFeyEMwiC_ymUKlY24mB=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/Lkgbs7hwbtmRyPcQ0JrCL1o7IwVJvvIzIzJl7ElkPGlhBAoEj1VNdFgLnnMBhU5wfE4lbmHGT-sY=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/ae53Bbsira4fXd8vrOGwRUMOh08j7Ec_ZiX9IsWSCxrtFbwJaL1rpVttlvEz5wbbPXhyj0t4aaKS=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/f5FEhaxfJlZLCfXmApSVAgVqH7LDLdJWSlsO15dCqE7xNZ4qMEIwkgfpx_mIekqGYdWr-IvGHKIF=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/b08CT91AefBRUuiw1WhPf61LZ3N1uYd2ETU3qTR3ygRBwSEPVWkntlk2Sw1qOiEEgAUJcwsoZ7bp=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/DIyAJqSN7ewMo0bLDPmjZ7M1rmtPbsD-KBjSDPD5i_tGxA-lF6a1Os3WTMm6wbzlcLn3clnAOuhn=s1600
There are multiple other Feats Etc etc.........



Now,
NEW 52 SUPERMAN'S SPEED.
Yes, Superman is faster than Green Lantern, like he stated. There is no reason Superman would lie about being faster than him.


"Green Lantern is Quadrillions xFTL"
He is way faster. I'll prove so in a moment.

And you comment about the Feat below.

"The time in the Comic is completely unquantified"
Not really. I read the Comic myself.

It was the Comic GREEN LANTERN VOL.6: THE LIFE EQUATION, where Green Lantern Hal Jordan and Black Hand traveled from Earth to the Source Wall, located at the Edge Of The Universe
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_l6LyErU5PQ/VnJvDhtrGWI/AAAAAAAAS4A/CzlG9FvNhAQ/s16000-Ic42/RCO010.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Or7xTzNNKZE/VnJvDwscGQI/AAAAAAAAS4A/fxTXOwIZGbI/s16000-Ic42/RCO011.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UFGHB4VHDy4/VnJvEMN7RhI/AAAAAAAAS4A/vGzoUZ-riFk/s16000-Ic42/RCO012.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OLiIutJH5qQ/VnJvEOXftvI/AAAAAAAAS4A/K1721e46k6U/s16000-Ic42/RCO013.jpg
It wouldn't make sense to say it took them an hour or more because as you can see in the scans, as soon as Orion's Army got to the Source Wall from New Genesis, Hal Jordan and William Hand got there as well.

But instead of saying it took them seconds to get there, let's say on each page they were exchanging words, it took them a minute while Orion was gathering his army.

The best Estimate of time would be 3 Minutes, if we count the the first three scans as a minute each, and the last scan is when they arrive to their destination.

Each DC Universe is 100 Trillion Light Years Big.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I5O1bJ_0f7Q/V2chZ7unf1I/AAAAAAAAGDo/z_tCm1JR-V0wpel4vG6Zjuccmq9toUmlw/w330-h508-p-rw/100%2Btrillion%2Blight%2Byears.jpg
So that's 3.15576e+21 Light Seconds / 180 seconds
= 1.7532e19 (1 Sextillion xFTL)
So Hal Jordan is casually 1 Sextillion xFTL.

It's a Fact that Hal is slower than Superman, and he is the strongest in the Green Lantern Corps.
In the GL Corps, Guy Gardner also showed a casual Feat of the Sextillions speed.

Travels the DC Universe in one second
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/WzE4PPN1CvJe4uIwZ9NEASp1S8DOJ_YOdhseKqWI8HeZBlQOjThVctAw93qdhKROU7CdfUFb-D7NmQ=s0
3.15576e+21/ 1 second (3 Sextillions xFTL)
And Superman is above that.

Superman is also able to keep up with Flash, who thinks Quadrillion Speed is slow
>Flash calls the Watch Tower's computers slow, despite the fact that they can preform over 100 quadrillion calculations per second.

http://i.imgur.com/ejn2987.jpg
Flash Vs Superman

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/5REblCioDl1FI3jkgzLblXhX8HhWDJ_BvmUKtxaCpdsTahYJH2-hMPV6fdgg2lkPg1098qRfpOzi=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/lo_gaa1a884iyjjxH__uHumfxeOUSgdtFUYPEzd6fxDcIRUVsQxyvVHlg4eFcTs4LzFdCanhvs_h=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/cwIB0b41IUaaJ2nSkKhSaR94thK9qSdqD1hiiSrdHP7nxPXvik3uw3nCqMCNG56cAFz8iUe3dzyV=s1600

So you saying Supes is Quadrillions at best is Downplay

I will be providing better Speed if you manage to prove Goku is faster.



EXTRA DEBUNKS
Before he left, Abdou had a small Refute of some of the Misconceptions in the Video.

(CREDITS TO ABDOU FOR THE LAST PART OF THE DEBUNK)
- * Scaling does work when the characters in question are all from the same race and are powered by the same energy source, i.e Solar Radiation, making scaling between Kryptonians just as accurate as scaling between DB characters, probably even more accurate due to the race being the same.*

- Cyborg Superman didn't just state he can tank Supernovas, he stated he has flown right through Supernovas, meaning that he has indeed not only tanked them but proved so in-effected by them that he could casually fly within them as they explode. Meaning it's an off panel that's proven by a statement.
- Denny Swan one shotting Supergirl happened on the same run of the Superman comic where Supergirl shattered Cyborg Superman's body, it's just in later issues, and it being written by a different writer doesn't effect its connection to the other feat as it's still the same continuity.
- Superman has no reason to lie about himself being faster than Green Lantern as he is not the type of character that would go out of his way to make himself appear as something greater than he is.
- Superman proved himself to be faster than Green Lantern by being faster than Orion, who is faster than green lantern. You may argue that destructive capability scaling doesn't work in DC comics (which is a faulty argument on its own but let's not get into that now), but speed scaling can't go wrong in this particular context.
- The time frame needn't necessarily be mentioned when you can look at the context and give an educated guess on how long it would've took the corps to get there. And it more than likely took the corps no more than a few seconds seeing how Orion was getting ready to leave the Source Wall (Edge of the DC universe) and go back to his home planet when the corps took off.
- Darkseid and Anti Monitor's fight was indeed going to destroy the multiverse, it wasn't just a hyperbole as the character making that statement is a heavily reliable New God known as Metron who holds the knowledge of the past, present and future, making him nigh omniscient by default and rendering that statement 100% accurate.
- The DC universes is infinite in universes and timeline, it also exists on a 200.000-Dimensional plain of existence, therefor effecting it in even the slightest of ways would require a level of power that should be at least some what close to that, making the feat of Anti Monitor cracking the universe at least multiversal.
- God of Strength Superman not only tanked several attacks from an Anti Monitor who was amped FAR beyond his base level of power which is proven to be multiversal, he also damaged him and caused him to bleed from his mouth, he later on also heavily damaged AM using a solar flare technique but that depowered him, so GoS should be at the very least multi universal++, possibly even low multiversal based on that.
- No, the God of Strength is an amp that increases all stats no just strength, as the amp is nothing more than a sun dip in planet Apocalypse's solar radiation emitting fire pits, and solar radiation obviously effects all stats.
- It was God of War Wonder Woman that dodge those punches from GoS Superman, not base Wonder Woman, and even then Superman wasn't even trying to fight her, he was trying to get her to fight him.

CONCLUSION
"New 52 Superman gets Fucking Destroyed"
>Goku can't hurt him any worse than he ever has been, and he will pretty much be able to tank his attacks with ease, since the Universes in DC and DBZ Differ very much.

>Superman's Punches will be extremely effective to Goku, since Superman was even just younger when Darkseid attacked his Universe, and got stronger throughout.

>And also, Goku does't Dominate in Speed, unless you show me a Legit Speed Feat Superior to mine.

I'm sure i missed some things but those where the ones that stood out the Most :)



#RIPAbdou#PapaAbdou2015-16#BallsOutForAbdou#AbdouIsAFuckingLegend

ABDOU WILL BE MISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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